I am not saying that rooftop grabbing is a bad tactic, nor do I say that there is no way to counter it. Though difficult to combat it is possible to retake the high ground. I also am not saying that all players stay up top and camp, just there is still an abundant amount of players that do. Also, people just want to feed the same counter measure, yet never actually address the issue, as well as the points I have made, which is counterproductive to an actually discussion. I have brought ideas and provided reasons why this issue should be addressed, but have yet to hear any argument to why they would hurt the game.

I personally rush in and take all the points on the ground, then when I see the other team derp ship, I hide under the those buildings. The point of this post was to point out that by fixing these issues would improve teamplay, yet everyone that has posted here avoid that topic.

Your tactic is valid, as I have pointed out, is viable and I don't think it should go away. My point would still make doing as you say a great way to benefit your team, but would discourage mass amounts of a team to use high ground at the same time. It would allow snipers and forgers to actually stand a chance against those on the highest points as it would be somewhat more exposed.

Easy fix to roof top camping grab a sniper and shoot the fish out the barrel

I am disappointed in everyone that has posted on this topic so far. I brought constructively to the table, and you all went "waaaaa! Use derp ship! Spec into forge/sniper!". I even posted several times that high ground is a great tactic and should be used, just imposed stricter sizes and safe areas once up on these said locations. Still, people are defending this as though I said to remove all high ground.

If there's a large group of enemies camping on a tower, you can take advantage of that. The lack of enemy players on the ground makes letters easier to take.

I've ignored talking in this subject for some time, as I believe this tactic is viable, but some issues arise because of this. I've seen other posts were people wanted ground access to rooftops, and I am against that. Access only by dropship gives them somewhat of a purpose, as well as cover from the onslaught of av on the field. I do believe there does need to be some balance though, as this tactic just encourages camping, usually half a team, with them not pushing any objectives. I have a few ideas that may help combat this issue.

First off, all rooftop spots should be within 2 types of ranges. The highest points should still be well within range of snipers on the ground, even more so than they are now. At the base the range to the top let's say 250 meters max.
The second range should be within sleek throwing grenade distance. Their should be no heights above or between these two ranges, but lower ones would be acceptable.

Second, none of the higher areas should have overhead cover whatsoever. This way orbitals can always deal with the rooftop dwellers and their equipment.

Third, there should be less room to completely hide from ground troops. As is players take a round or two, move back 1m and are instantly safe to self rep. Majority of the high ground should be slopped to prevent abuse, and encourage players to use the rooftops for a short while to gain a tactical advantage, but then move in to take objectives, or just jump down to find better cover.

Lastly, it it's too easy to move around massive parts of these massive rooftops and cover entire areas of the map. To combat this, roofs should have smaller sectioned off areas, so players that do get up there will be confined to smaller areas of field of views. This way, if a player's chosen spot isn't seeing much action, they either jump down or have to call in another dropship to relocate.

I agree. I put in a post last week about making sniping more difficult. Make them use dropshots like BF3 if they want to hug the rooftops, make it harder for them to land a shot. If it's an energy weapon like the charge sniper rifle, make it lose energy at greater distances, ,meaning by the time the shot hits you on the ground, it does half the damage or something like that.

I guess CCP could disallow spawn beacons above ground level, and nanohives. That would make them run out of bullets eventually.

Either way, something has to be done about it, I can name 4 users I see every weekend that do nothing but that same tactic over and over. People always remind me Dust is about risk. Well, what are they risking then by sitting way up there?

Ah the realism argument. Keep in mind that we're playing a game with clones, energy weapons, spaceships, etc. I think realism went out the window a while ago.

I do see your point, and understand the physics quite well. However, the point is something needs to be done. It was merely a suggestion to allow the people that do it to keep doing it, just make them work for it more. It is getting a bit tired and out of hand. And I do counter snipe, however, I don't regularly play as a sniper, I dabble in it only because i have the covenant rifle. I mainly run assault.

However, I think my no uplink/nanohive above a certain height idea is decent though. That way they have to come down at some point, or miss out on kills and become useless to their team.

There are plenty of risks. Dropships can sneak up on me. Orbital strikes can be dropped on my head. Sniper teams can kill me before I have time to react. Forge gunners and railgun tanks can take me out in one shot. The list goes on.

I'm a Heavy HMG that rushes the front line.

I don't need the armor buffs, I just need to be smart and stay in CQB.